This being said, I doubt the commenter is alone in his misconceptions or that it was any help to Cey his only year on the ballot. In 1974, Cey kicked off a six-year string of All-Star appearances for the Dodgers when he finished second to Hall of Famer Mike Schmidt in RBI among NL third basemen. Third base is, by far, the most effed up position in the Hall of Fame. This is an incomplete list, but should be close: Mike Schmidt His Dodgers won the NL West flag again and like he did his previous trials in the postseason, he hit well in the NLCS (.313 batting average). Sal Bando Follow the Hall of Stats on Ron Cey was always my favorite player on my favorite team-LAD so I might be a bit biased but if you take his defensive abilities and throw those in with his offensive numbers, by that I’d say he is HOF worthy.
Hall of Fame Talk; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. 1974 was also Cey’s first taste of postseason ball and he did quite well under the October spotlight. G 2,073/R 977/H 1,868/2B 328/3B 21/HR 316/RBI 1,139/BB 1,012/SO 1,235/SB 24/BA .261/SA .445/OBP .354. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? He was certainly better than Pie Traynor, George Kell, and Freddie Lindstrom. Kind of a poor man’s Brooks Robinson. I don’t know exactly where he ranks because I haven’t even collected data for all players ahead of him. For Cey, the stakes aren’t as high, being that the research merely shows him to be as good or better than Garvey, one of the more overrated Hall of Fame candidates in recent years. I always thought of him as a just-barely-above-average kind of player. This list includes players who played mostor at least a large portionof their careers with the Los Angeles Dodgers, as opposed to the Brooklyn Dodgers, though a couple on the list began their careers in Brooklyn and then moved west with the team in 1958. Anticipating the 2014 Expansion Era Hall of Fame Ballot. Are there Hall of Fame third basemen right now who were not as good as Ron Cey? Although Ron drove in 97 runs in 1974 his 1975 season was his breakout campaign. 99.7, I’d appreciate if no one leaves a comment like, “Heck no! Agreed I don’t think he should be in the Hall of Fame but he certainly wouldn’t be the worst selection. His bio on their site reads: RON CEY (1982) Ron Cey, the famous "Penguin" of the Los Angeles Dodgers, began his climb to the Major Leagues as a third baseman for Washington State in 1967-68. The point of this column isn’t to mount a hopeless case that Cey belongs in Cooperstown. Ron Cey is this close to my in/out line. All data is also open and I looked on and found that Garvey and Cey had almost identical offensive production for their time in Los Angeles, posting OPS+ scores of 122 and 125, respectively. The Dodgers had the luxury of a long-running infield of Garvey at first, Davey Lopes at second, Bill Russell at short and Cey at third. 4. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. The power-hitting third baseman didn’t come close to making the Top 50 in my recent project on the best players not in the Hall of Fame, receiving 13 votes out of 86, with just one voter saying he deserved a plaque. He didn’t even play 2000 games but still racked up enough value to be Hall-worthy. They are awesome. While Ron Cey isn’t a Hall of Famer, he deserves this type of post. ( Log Out /  Then, the adjWAR and adjWAA are combined, but with extra weighting given to adjWAA. Jeffrey Chupp, Yes, there are. And Adam, I like your list in the previous comment. or After two World Series losses in which his bat was kept quiet, Cey addressed his Fall Classic hitting woes and had a decent showing against the Yankees with a .286 mark, bus his Dodgers, for the third time during his tenure, lost the World Series. The Hall of Stats is open sourced on That means he was damn good. His third base peers were guys like George Brett and Mike Schmidt, and Cey isn’t of the same claiber as those two HOF men. Brett was a .300 hitter and Schmidt has over 500 career long balls.

That’s NINE third basemen with excellent Hall of Fame cases. Twitter Brooks Robinson

Also, this compilation only includes retired players and is not written in any particular order. Matt Williams Buddy Bell – Incredible defender and was an average hitter for a long time. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. When Steve Garvey failed to impress at third base, The Penguin was tried at the location and found quite suitable. The Hall of Stats was built by Ron Cey. The Dodgers drafted Cey in 1968 and gave him his first look in the Majors in 1971. The Penguin also had the first of ten 20+ homerun seasons that year. He had an OPS+ of 121. He banged three doubles in the NLCS but had a more difficult time with A’s pitching in the World Series. Surface stats can sink a man’s shot at Cooperstown, even if a little more research suggests he might at least be worth more consideration. Over the course of his career, (thus, truly capturing a player’s peak seasons) and making similar adjustments for catchers and relief pitchers. His average was low and it has kept him out. Where do you rank Pie Traynor vs your list of Hall-worthy 3Bs? Cey rates twenty-first among eligible third basemen and twentieth if we think… He was the most egregious omission at the position, so at least that started what might be an adjustment. Deacon White – I can’t believe this 19th century star is not in the Hall. and But they should have put him in as a player first. Return to Top; MLB Players. Ron tied with Tim Wallach for the most homeruns by an NL third baseman in 1985. There are 17 third basemen among the best 207 players in history, so by my Hall of wWAR, those 17 deserve to be enshrined. Cey hit over 300 homers and he would have collected 2000 hits if he wasn’t walking s’damn much. was worth Does he deserve more respect than he’s gotten? Adam Darowski, Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Billy Nash Change ). Bert Blyleven was in this group for a long time, though last year he became perhaps the first player enshrined on the basis of sabermetrics. He finished sixth in Rookie of the Year voting. > Ron Cey Statistics and History. Hey played a long time at third base, which is also valuable. 8. What he did: Let’s be clear– I don’t consider Ron Cey a Hall of Famer. Your email address will not be published. Home Run Baker See the I believe Cey and others suffer from the attitudes espoused by the commenter above. He blasted 30 homeruns, drew 93 walks, and led National League third basemen with 110 RBI. Want even more detail about the formula? The point of this column isn’t to mount a hopeless case that Cey belongs in Cooperstown. Wade Boggs 3. I’m not so surprised to see Pie Traynor way down the list. Luckily, Ron Santo was just inducted. Heinie Groh After these adjustments, the 26.2 WAA becomes 28.8 adjWAA. Stan Hack – This longtime Cubbie owned a .394 OBP. Graig Nettles – Power, defense, on-base skills. Darrell Evans – This “.248 hitter” got on base 3828 times. Adam: GitHub. Cey met with many fans at Hall of Fame Cards to sign autographs, pose for photos and, most importantly—talk baseball. Cey followed up that season with an equal 28 homerun campaign in 1980.

Throughout his career, Cey was always in Schmidt’s shadow. making him close to the Hall of Stats borderline—but still on the outside. Ned Williamson Ron Cey He reckons out to a 98 by CHEWS+. Current Hall of Fame eligibility: Cey was a one-and-done candidate, receiving 1.9 percent of the vote in 1993, his only year on the writers ballot. His career WAR of 52.0 isn’t bad. I’m writing this column for different reasons. Measurements play against Ron Cey. He ranks twenty-third all-time among every third basemen in history, if we count Deacon White as a third baseman—there’s good reason to consider him a catcher. His second year as a Cub, 1984, Cey led them to the postseason by pacing NL third basemen in doubles. After adjusting for length of schedule, catchers, and relief pitchers, the 53.8 WAR becomes That makes Cey the second best third baseman outside of the Hall of wWAR. John McGraw No, he does not. The real shocker for me is how high Toby Harrah ranks. Arlie Latham Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your account. I doubt Cey will ever follow, and I don’t have any problem with this, but perhaps a few other underrated, misunderstood players like Bobby Grich, Lou Whitaker, and Rick Reuschel will eventually get their due. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Yes, he does. 53.8 Wins Above Replacement All Wins Above Replacement and Wins Above Average data comes from
But I think it makes for interesting copy. Ron Cey has a Hall Rating of But he had glorious post-season moments that baseball playing kids dream about! Thanks for providing this list in response to my question (and thanks also for your earlier kind words about the Morris/Lolich comment).

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